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Video is unrelated to the product. Android Wear app, I have it locked in the background and I still have to enable notification each morning. Not that I'm saying thats an issue.

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Extract it and put it on a microSD and put that in your phone before flashing. The THL phones I could also swear by, never had a problem with any of them. 7 inch android phones how to unlock Easyfit Pedometer does not work. Same here, extremely solid connectivity with wireless, bluetooth and GPS. I got this and placed it on the tablet.

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I've spoken to Oppo support today and they confirmed in writing that the R9S supports 4G on Sim 1 and 3G on Sim 2 simultaneously — this is consistent with the Snapdragon chipset as well. Other Sellers on Amazon. This is a Oppo thread, I'm talking Oppo devices, all them run 5. It becomes a bit confusing with so many variants of the Redmi 3.

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20.03.2018 - Wonder how the camera and battery life compares though. I have an LG G Watch and it just doesn't work the way it should either. Rose gold, which is slightly less painful than gold. Add all three to Cart Add all three to List. Battery — others — don't freeze in background and do not automatically optimise default apps — clear defaults and change security and permissions — allow all for apps we want.

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20.02.2018 - See all Used offers. Does anyone know if the R9s Plus also has this flicker problem? What I didn't like about ipad multi tasking open two programs at the same time was that it only works for the app that supports this feature. We desperately want them to unlock their bootloader so ppl can make new roms. I too found conflicting reports. Although the screen size is the same.

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13.02.2018 - Setting it up makes you do it twice anyway and now doesnt work. Would you like to tell us about a lower price? Video is unrelated to the product. I had a quick look at the R9s Plus next to an R9s at JB-HiFi last week and it looked very very similar in terms of blacks and contrast.

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There was a problem filtering reviews right now. Please try again later. I bought this item in October of from a marketplace seller. The sale itself was wonderful, tablet arrived quickly, and I have no issue with that.

Fast forward six months, and I've noticed that has never been a firmware update. Lollipop is available and so is Marshmallow you have to love Android's firmware names, seriously. Apparently it is focusing on 8.

Does that mean the tablet doesn't work? But you'll never get firmware upgrades and that is already causing me issues re: Buyer should absolutely be aware of this before purchasing. I wish I had been because I would have gone another route.

Comment 12 people found this helpful. Was this review helpful to you? This is my first tablet and i love it so far. It's been only two weeks and i cannot give you a full review yet, but i can say below confidently: I have not used my laptop much since i got this.

I don't have a smart phone, but this is like one without phone service or connectivity, i imagine. Only time i use my laptop anymore is when i have to do heavy duty typing, organize my pictures and music, and when i want to print something.

Emails, skype, net surfing, do it all on tablet. If you are used to apple products and never worked on Android product, it will take a bit of time to get used to, so it will require some patience.

It seems like everything is customizable. Pro is you can personalize it to almost exactly how you want it to function. Con is that you have to go through so many setup options to get there. Default setting is okay, but definitely spend some time on setup to conserve battery and turn off annoying notifications.

If you are not familiar with Android and don't want to mess with setup much, apple maybe a better choice. But don't discount this option just yet. Google play app store is setup to auto update all apps.

It seems to slow down device and sucks battery. To turn it off, go to Google play store, setting top left corner of the screen, and turn off auto update apps.

Screensize is about x4 of iPod touch screen not the whole device, just screen A person with a larger smartphone may think 7 inch tab is just an extra large smartphone without phone and be unsatisfied.

Not a fan of the soft keyboard, but you can download different keyboard apps to solve the issue. Two things i do like are: I can type japanese just like on a regular keyboard, which is huge.

I still haven't found a keyboard app offers this AND has better english typing experience One cool thing about this tab maybe if this is standard in all tabs??

Everything is completely split. Even pictures you take won't be available for another user to view though for our case we wish it was a shared album camera is ok. Low light takes poor picture, but just change the mode to night and it improves quality quite a bit.

If you have decided to buy this product, make sure to also purchase: If you have a card inserted, all pictures you take will be automatically saved on the SD card.

Tab comes with pre-installed apps you cannot get rid of, so 8GB doesn't go very far. This was not expected and was a big plus for me. If you are like me who wants hands on experience before deciding, go to your local store and play with it first.

I think this is a perfect tab for a beginner with tight budget like us. The price has come down so much since now there is a newer tab called S, but it still seems like a very well built product and i am very satisfied with my first time tablet purchase and experience.

About storage, fun apps, and more This tab has Android 4. What i have read says that starting with this operating system they started preventing some Apps to be moved to SD card. I downloaded photo edit app, which i was able to move to SD card, but the photo i edit won't save on the card.

I downloaded an app that imports library from my iTune account but it won't save the music on card. The reason for this restriction is speculated to be in effort to promote and encourage consumer to use Cloud service.

Anyway, i worked around to save music on SD card, and it is fine, just take extra time. There are some apps that helps you move these non-movable apps, search under SDCARD FIX, but it doesn't solve all issues and some required more tech involvement than i was willing to invest my time on.

IF you are trying to hook up your tablet to a mini projector or any HDMI, this tablet doesn't support the functionality. There is no adaptor out there that could do that either.

I believe newer device supports it, but you have to make sure you check whether HDMI is supported or Video Out is supported for it to work. This is one big disappointment for me.

IF you are trying to download Apple Music, this device is currently isn't compatible either. Seems as though there is a lot of limitation built into this device.

I was buying this to test out to see if we like a tablet in our household. Now I see all the things a tablet could possibly do, I wish it did all of that. I think I got greedy with functionality.

Now let's make the most out of this cool little device. Here are some free fantastic fun apps to consider downloading: Pocket - any online materials you may want to read later, just "share" via Pocket instead of facebook, twitter, and such, and the article will be saved on your Pocket app and read it offline.

Youtube videos are viewable when you have internet connection only. Sony sketch-turn your tab into a drawing board, sketch pad, canvas, and create your own scrapbook page, greeting cards, and simply let your inner artist come through and shine!

This is a far better app than game apps if you are looking to kill time. Photo Director-this app does so much and take your already-proud-of pics to a whole another level! It can also make your less than ordinary picture a piece of art!

The free version will limit you to transferring songs per transfer, but you can do as many transfers as you need to. Also you will have to transfer the music to the device first and then move the music files to the SD card afterwards - it's due to the whole SD card thing I talked about earlier.

Yes, it's not as convenient, but it still works, and the transfer is fast. Musixmatch - this is an app that shows you lyrics of the music you are playing from your music library. There is a function that works just like Shazam, music identifier and also displays lyrics at the same time.

This app is actually a really cool music player app, so instead of using the built in music player app, I use this app as default. Crackle - shows Sony Entertainment TV shows and movies.

Avast products - they are really good app to keep your device protected, cleaned up, saves battery, and it's free! It's amazing how much junk get saved and take up your limited memory by simply browsing internet and Play Store.

Comment 10 people found this helpful. Nothing against the seller at all in regards to this, device only. The Tab 4 7. Samsung usually pushes out updates to new OS as they can, but this comes with Android KitKat and will have it forever.

Over two years ago they released the 5. Us with the WIFI model are screwed. This isnt to say KitKat is bad, but some apps require the newer versions and its sad that it was almost a waste as newer versions release and this becomes less and less supported.

Comment 5 people found this helpful. I bought this tablet at my local Target store on the 30th of June and let me say, this is the best tablet I ever had. It's super light and easy to use.

The front and back camera are great to take selfies and pictures and it's great for taking videos. The Skype is great as well. I am a teenager myself and I am using it for school and personal stuff.

I use the Google Chrome for web browsing and it's really fast. Downloading apps is fast as well as opening and running them. I also downloaded the CleanMaster app and clean it after I'm done using it and it helps deletes the junk files and makes the device run even faster.

A couple of my relatives have both the iPad and the iPad Mini, but when I tried both of them myself, nothing compares to the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4. The keyboard is great when it comes to commenting on the works and also typing my own stories.

The battery lasts much longer, too. I have the Netflix app and I can watch the videos perfectly. Listening to music is much more clear and easier when you put some ear buds on.

The speaker is on the back of the device. Overall, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 is a perfection! You should buy it! Comment 1, people found this helpful. See all 5, reviews.

See all customer images. Most recent customer reviews. Published 2 days ago. The G4 is also very good in low light. Thanks, what you say makes sense. So G4 sounds right. Seriously I was lured by 5.

The Kogan price is amazing, but ends on the 28th. I am going to miss this sale tho, we had our bank account hacked on Thursday, they emptied it. The bank is putting it all back, but it will not happen until after the easter break.

So as soon as that is sorted G4 here I come: Big thanks for the help. Only thing is this phone may be stuck with MM, and with its bootloader unlockable you can't flash the official CM13 or any other custom ROMs.

May not be important to you. The Meizu M3 Note has been announced. Asus factory, quality assured, and they have ASUS apps which is constantly improving and updated via playstore, unlike other Chinese Androids.

Chiming in late here.. The attraction I see here is well specced phones for good prices. Suggestions appreciated, sub bucks if possible Havent really been keeping up with Chinese androids for a while my backup THL t11 is going strong even used as main one while in Phils for a month.

Whats been happening with Chinese Androids in the last 6 months?. So I'm looking to buy a Xiaomi mi5 this week. Just wondering which site is recommended in terms of quick shipping and decent warranty service?

ADSL User writes You may be interested in this deal for the Redmi Note Prime: I loved my Mi4c, but once I dropped it and cracked the screen I've had nothing but trouble. Two replacement screens later and I still can't get it going.

In a broader sense, I see this as a major problem with Chinadroids Inability of the local market to fix them. I notice they have also poached some Samsung execs to exapand into Nth America.

LeEco Le Max 2 5. LeEco Le 2 Pro 5. LeEco Le 2 5. LeEco formely LeTv seems to of announced 3 new cheapish well specced phones Hopefully they have improved the camera and software since the 1s.

Yeah, I've never really seen or used one previously. I remember you telling me about some of the camera issues with the previous model s. They are using the IMX 21Mp sensor like most others, but of course the ISP image signal processor and software also plays a part of the quality of images, and and that is generally where the Chinese manufactures haven't caught up to the Samsungs and Apples of the world.

I would of also changed the name of the company to something more globally popular LeTv and LeEco are still very Chinese, and they likely won't set the world on fire with that name change.

But I'm all for well specced phones at a decent price, although I noticed they've removed the IR for TV remote, which their previous models had dagnabbit. I have tiny hands and really wish they would release those spec'ed phones with 5" or lower screen: There are no major issues with rooting, but I don't think the custom ROM situation is good.

Getting a OnePlus One or Two would be better, but those two have poor cameras too. I was a little surprise that the base model wasn't a 5" version Not sure they needed two 5.

But have heard a few people mention the same thing. I use a Sony Bluetooth adapter with standard 3. I think Apple have been rumoured to be removing the 3. If true it could mean a slew of compatible Type-C iPhone headsets will be compatible in the future.

Getting harder to find the singular Chinese branded phones that are popular enough world wide to get ROM support. So many are coming out with good specs, that the userbase is being divided amongst them all.

The Mi5 will likely be popular that way, but between the price, availability and locked bootloader even that is not without issues. I couldn't agree more. The Redmi Note 3 was perfect for me hardware wise, apart from the capacitive buttons being the wrong way around, which I find annoying.

The thing that often ruins it with these Chindaroids is the UI or issues with apps. Thinking of the InFocus M for my dad. Doesn't need anything special and barely uses his phone so the battery is not a huge deal.

I think i read on a different article they come with usb-c to 3. But i might be misremembering. With the number of people who go jogging with phones etc, I can only imagine a lot of heartache with usb-c connections jiggling loose.

Maybe but wireless is generally a lot more expensive and then you've got another device with a battery. On some sites in the specs it says it has a removable battery, although it doesn't seem to be the case I haven't tried unscrewing them How do I tell?

Sorry, I'm not sure how to tell if it supports Band The battery life is good for my purposes, but I'm a very light user. I don't know how long it would last under heavy use.

I keep it fully charged. I looked at the specs on Vickmall. This is where I looked. Xiaomi mi max to be unveiled May But the Lenovo K3 was spoilt for choice, but finding others with that same large userbase is trickier now.

Looks like a good phone.. Not sure why its predecessor the Z1 wasn't very popular. For me it was simply the price of the Zuk Z1, the prices were around that of the Leather wrapped LG G4 with Headphones, only importing and support was less.

For a phone without a real warranty, no mhz and little 3rd party support, It is likely a bridge too far for me. I'm on the lookout for a new phone for my wife.

Her Nexus 4 is having touchscreen issues parts of the screen unresponsive to touch, so I'm looking to replace it with a cheap and cheerful Chinese solution. The only thing is, there is so many options and it's getting really confusing.

For example, Xiaomi have quite a lot of different models. The Mi4 seems to be good with decent specs, but then there's the Note models which seems less well specced but cost more for some reason?

Then there's the issue of which phones work on which bands which is alos confusing she's currently with Telechoice, runs Telstra network but no 4G and throttled NextG.

All she really needs is something with decent battery life, not too big, solid performance in the Nexus 4 ballpark would be good, Play store access and reliability to run apps.

If I need to do some tweaking to get things up and running like install a ROM or something, I can, but it would be good if there was a minimal of stuffing around and things just worked.

Is there one model that is a clear choice for the above requirements? Has 12 months Aussie warranty. I've had it for about 1 month so far and I'm very happy with it so far.

I have unlocked the bootloader but there are a few ROM's that don't need an unlocked bootloader and have root enabled. Id recommend the Xiaomi Mi4S or Mi5 if you can afford just that little bit more.

They look nice, but probably a bit more than I was willing to spend. The Mi4 looks OK, and decently specced. Again it gets confusing with the Mi4, 4i, 4c and 4s. The extra money for the 4s doesn't seemed justified by the relatively minor spec bump.

The Redmi is an interesting one. I think it'd suit her better given it's smaller size, but it seems a waste because it's lower specced for similar money. M8,just got the Umi Rome on Friday.

Looks a lot like a Galaxy with great internals for the price. But be careful as I didn't check frequency band and now have to change to Optus network. Previously with Telstra network.

Luckily no biggy for me but so far a great phone. I have had one of these for just over a week inFocus M It really is an amazing device for the dollars. Loaded with software and used constantly for a mix of browsing, watching youTube and playing HD videos it gives a life of between 6 and 8 hours!

Minuses The inFocus V5 launcher is absolute crap! Nova Launcher is a good choice to resurrect the lost usability. Both sim slots are 4G capable but NOT simultaneously! If you are using 4G for your data on one sim the other operates at 2G.

This is a serious bummer that is documented in the on-line brochure. You can switch the 4G radio to the other sim without opening the sim slot, however. For those looking to root the phone and install a custom ROM, just forget it!

The ROM is totally locked down. I have tried everything to root this thing. The external micro SD can be configured as the default write device so your camera and most other apps will put their content there.

In spite of the limitations I am seriously considering buying another for my partner. Truly an amazing device for the dollars! I have seen some russians and Taiwanese have rooted this phone. Apparently there was even a marshmallow dev ROM from Infocus.

Can someone recommend me a Chinese phone with THE best camera for the money you can get? I'm actually willing to sell my note 5 as I believe the functionality you can run with on other androids.

But I'm not willing to downgrade on cameras that much. I treasure being able to grab my phone and take a quick pic of my boys and have great quality pics. It doesn't support U for Telstra.

It's annoying how companies such as Zopo, Umi and Ulefone fail to include this band, as it immediately rules the phone out for Telstra customers. It's annoying how companies such as Zopo, Umi and Ulefone fail to include this band,.

Maybe because they are producing these phones for the China market and those bands aren't used. I know, but Xiaomi, OnePlus, LeEco and Lenovo among others include that band, and it doesn't cost them any more money.

I'm thinking the Mi4 looks the best choice for the price. Sure, it doesn't have latest Android, but it well specced for little money. I didn't realise that any Xiaomi phones had official CM support.

The Mi4 certainly does. Or does it still have to be done manually like a normal custom ROM? You just go into About Phone and set it to check manually or automatically and if automatically, you can choose how often you want to be notified of updates.

Since they're usually nightlies, I just check manually on my OnePlus One. It downloads the ROM in the background and then asks you to agree to apply the update.

I am running it on my Mi3 which was also on the list for the first phones to get Android 6 my version number is 6. So I assume it maintains apps, settings and data like a regular Android update?

If so that's hella cool. However, that's just because I prefer supersu to superuser that CM includes by default in the developer menu, and because I have a custom DPI.

I just received the Infocus M yesterday. I am not sure of the difference but it looks as though it has multiple names for the same phone. The build quality is amazing for the price and the screen pops.

I purchased mine from gearbest and paid a few extra dollars for faster shipping. Took 5 business days to arrive which was pretty good. However according to the box and from what I have read around the M actually supports the following:.

This is really a jack of almost all signals phone. For the price and quality, there isn't too many other phones close. This is Gearbest's product comparison page for the M and M I picked up the mi5 from honorbuy.

Shipped in about 4 days. Works fine on Telstra and Optus dual sim but better on Telstra. Just out of curiosity because i have never used Android. Would this make the phone still useable in a couple of years if stuck on 5.

Or do apps require the latest version eventually? Eventually yes, but the couple of year time frame you are referring to will probably see you out. Minimum android versions required is highly subjective and is basically up to the developer of the app and the app requirements but as a rule anything from say android 4 or 4.

I honestly don't think there'll be any app issues, a lot of phones only ever see slight updates and rarely upgrades unless it is a flagship. The Google Play store recognises what android version you are on and will only show you the apps compatible with it.

Main concern to me would be a key-logger, as nothing else on the phone is sensitive, but key logging my Password Safe would be a real problem. I think the Mi Max gonna sell like hotcakes.

Xiaomi spec it right and price it right. One thing I found problem with this phone is that it couldn't pair Bluetooth with any of other devices. Car stereo, speakers, etc.

I don't use bt much so it doesn't bother me. What's best place to get a mi4s? I'm using the redmi note 3 mtk version ATM good phone looking for something abit newer: I'm interested in this phone — does the phone gearbest ship come without pre-installed malware?

Are there any other sellers people can recommend for this phone, preferably those that ship the phone with a malware-free ROM. Quick question for those that have a M or M — just wondering if this non connection to bluetooth — is this occurring in a lot of M and M phones or was timhn unlucky with that one.

Use translator in chrome. I try pair again to the car stereo again and got it working. Make me realise it could be some sort interferences when last time I tried — there were 3 phones in the car with bt on that time that could cause the problem with pairing.

Have had it on order for about 8 weeks. Sweet that's good news. It has been running great, no dramas at all. Hi complete newbie here, I have a Lenovo a which I like very much, however it won't pair with my new car due to it's out dated android version.

I would like a phone that has either a update able android or b android 5. It has to run on Telstra networks, nothing to big as I have little girlie hands lol and all the usual playstore, facebook etc.

There was an update that broke bluetooth but I heard it has been pulled so you won't have any issues with that. I know it comes with Marshmallow but not sure if it is on 5.

My lenovo does everything I need well, unfortunately I can't upgrade it. I don't think that will fit the bill, I was looking for something with similar specs or better than what I already have.

I wouldn't know where to start with flashing and rooting and custom roms. I did try asking at a few phone places if they could root my phone and they looked at me like I had pooed on their counter: More than happy to have it done if someone can point me in the right direction.

ZTE Axon 7 looks promising. Saw this last night. Very tempting with that price and specs. Hopefully the camera is up to scratch. Of course, I say that not having actually had a 6" phone yet, but my Oneplus One does feel a little small these days.

Yeah, as someone who's been holding out for the OnePlus 3, now that specs and features are firmed up, I'm a bit 'meh' about it. Then sure enough, last night I found the Axon 7 popping up on several news sites.

This was my fav to date in that someone has their hands on one - http: They're reserving judgement so far on stuff like battery life and a detailed review of the camera, but they're talking about the difference between 'very good' and 'excellent' as it's already clearing the full day of intensive use threshold.

You can get a G5 for that and be guaranteed of having the best camera on the market. It's in a different league to OnePlus and Asus. And yes, I have been looking at the Xiaomi Mi Max.

Just waiting for the 4gb ram one, and not metallic pink rose gold coloured. Just not sure about all these Chinese manufacturers pushing expensive flagships.. Presents a compelling case if you don't invest a lot of value in your phone's camera or 'good enough' will do.

Just want to warn anybody who's contemplating an Elephone P I bought one about a month back and returned it inside of 2wks. It was built well physically, but everytime i used i noticed something else that wasn't working.

I was desperately hanging out for a software update so that the camera was actually useable, really — it was that bad. Once it came it wiped out cellular data access. Nothing at all, all gone.

Don't even get me started about battery life Elephone were exactly zero help. Antelife where i got it from are incompetent and rarely respond to emails, and if they do it's somebody different from the previous response.

Paypal have surprisingly been no help whatsoever so i'll likely be out of pocket. A phone that you might like to look into is the Umi Super. It has very decent specs and comes with stock Marshmallow.

It's the only Umi phone I've seen that supports both 3G and I'm done experimenting with other Chinese brands. I've used Xiaomi before and that'll do me fine for a secondary device.

Huawei i'd be content if price wise they didn't miss the mark. Actually, the Umi Iron and Touch have received a lot of negative feedback online. Scratch my excitement for the Super. Looks like a nice upgrade on the Touch which is still to hit distribution, so would be somewhat surprised if this makes its launch target.

The original Nexus 5. It's not the best at anything, except just being awesome. It's probably the first device i can think of for a very long time i hadn't wanted to get rid of for one reason or another.

There are phones with better cameras, better batteries, better displays even, but it's better than the sum of it's parts and that's why i've had it for so long. I had considered the Umi Touch orginally, but figured if that was an option then the RN3 was the safer bet.

These lesser chinese brands seem content with churning out device after device. They should make half the product perhaps and spend three times as much time on software. I got a OnePlus One in October.

It's the only smartphone I've ever had, but holy damn am I impressed with how well it performs for such a small price. Listening to music doesn't drain the battery nearly as much as my old iPod R.

I went from a HTC oneX to the Xiaomi Mi3 am 2 weeks off using it for 2 years, would really like an Mi4s but can't seem to want to relegate it it to the cupboard yet.

Why don't they spend zero on software just put on stock Android and spend a little more on the hardware product. It's not that simple. Umi does that with its phones and there are bugs that need to be fixed.

Every phone has different hardware which requires different drivers and optimisations. Could I get some thoughts on the Blackview bv http: Will it work with Telstra and Vodafone?

Will I be able to have play store on it. Recommendations of where to purchase would also be greatfully received. Finally heard from Antelife. Response was "yeah, we can't fix this But Vodafone is dropping 3G so 3G which is used regional will be used in suburbia as well I beleive this to be right.

The fun thing is, for 4G the mhz numbers aren't the whole story. For example, the oneplus one supports a certain type of mhz, but not the mhz used by telstra and optus which is Band 28 http: So I have decided to take the plunge on the Blackview bv, can anyone more experienced recommend some trustworthy sites to buy from.

I note that chinavision. Just responding to previous posts THL are another hassle-free Chinese brand. I've had two, and another three friends have had no problems with their models either oh hang on, the THL had a power button problem eventually?

Had it about 2 months now, no probs to speak of, nice fast good-looking phone, and 4G rocks. Calling it a 5. Full HD screen is nice though as is the bluelight filter — I use the phone outdoors at night a lot and it stops me searing my retinas.

And did I mention how fast 4G is? First thing I did was flash it with Marshmallow, root it and remove some of the bloat. Popped an Aldi sim in it and so far it's been performing brilliantly.

Stays on 4G all the time. Mate im waiting in mine, could you please list the steps or point to a website for downloads and instructions? Some steps are in http: Just use SUTL to flash it to your phone.

The zip has a beta SuperSU included. Extract it and put it on a microSD and put that in your phone before flashing. Install it from TWRP. We will see how that goes when it arrives.

Well, my Zopo speed 8 is on the way. Looking forward to it. Don't s'pose anyone on here has theirs already. The umi super, or the zopo speed 8? Or am I missing one completely?

I ordered it a couple of months ago on preorder for a lower price. I expect it here on Tuesday. I have to plug the phone to a notebook and use adb to boot to recovery.

Took me a while to switch English. All good so far with Marshmallow. Zopo Speed 8 has just arrived. About 15mm taller than my Zopo but very nice so far. Just have to do an update.

It installed everything from my automatically. Had the AliExpress order refused, waiting on Alipay to rview my appeal after submitting required docs. I have literally just got mine and the seal was broken on the box.

The seal on mine was also broken. I also assumed it was because they put in a power adapter for AUS. When do they expect it to ship? I bought it from www. Yeah I couldn't use AliExpress either so went with www.

Be careful with these guys — absolute crooks. Currently "dealing' with them now to get my money back on an Elephone P Sheez that is just so bleeding old for a new release tablet.

Slightly confused, have flashed many a file before but most of the translations are hard to follow. Do i have to flash TWRP before i flash a rom? Looks like it but where do i get it from?

The xda links above links to another forum in italian? I've been hanging out ever since my Nexus S to be able to pay for stuff with my phone. I'm not about to give up now that android pay is imminent in Australia.

My bank is one of the few that doesn't have its own tap n pay app St George and when I tried Optus Pay my phone wasn't compatible it had a very short compatibility list. Thanks mate, got the marshmallow downloaded just didnt know it had twrp there as well.

Tried this but it shows an error, no idea why, installed all the required drivers as well. I haven't been on the Forum for a while, so don't know whether the new start up Company Vernee and it's first phone the Vernee Thor has been discussed.

I had one of these phones sent the next day after ordering. So, the Vernee Thor is a 5" model, with Android 6 straight out of the box, a fingerprint scanner, gorilla glass screen with anti fingerprint coating, an excellent 13MP Samsung back camera — and just about every latest thing you could wish for.

Pity it doesn't have a notification LED, but most of us can live with that. For instance you could install a missed call and notification app that will provide a notification ring or sound.

This tiny Korean designed phone gets a Vodafone signal, even deep inside supermarkets or Malls Sydney. It never fails to send or receive voice or texts and runs on the GMS G2 networks.

Note Telstra is closing their G2 at the end of the year. Optus and Vodafone have made no similar claims. The received voice is loud and clear, and th microphone can even pick up a TV in the background.

Neither party would feel this was other than a normal size phone. The YouTube videos are all in Russian, sadly. It takes a few minutes to charge, and weighs only 35 grams, and has a 2 colour Oled screen, and has many of the functions an android phone has.

You may think your phone is dead when it arrives, — there are no instructions. But underneath in the second hole — to the right of the charger hole is a one time use master power switch not obvious and the purpose of the enclosed seem card tray pin there is no sim card tray is to activate that hidden switch.

The usual power switch is on the keyboard. It claims to be dual SIM. The left receptacle is for a TF memory card. The language on the screen is English. Even plays an opening and closing theme song.

The keyboard has back lighting. One think I've been very impressed with is the GPS. Surprisingly fast to lock with good accuracy. The only negative I have is that the camera photo quality is average, however this might be fixed with a different ROM.

Just came across a violent testing video for the Vernee Thor, and it seems indestructible, being dropped numerous times, cracking open walnuts and being run over by a car.

I'm aware I may need to downclock the CPU a little to keep temps good. I hear the x runs cool but so we'll see I noticed there are a few ROMs out for it which is good!

Is this the one dude? Everytime I look, I always go back to the redmi note 3 pro 3gb. For the money it looks fantastic along with the battery. The only negative is the kinda subpar camera.

Maybe it's because I have a note 5 who knows. But anyway, anyone got anymore suggestions before I pull the trigger? I'm in the same boat as you. I'm considering the Elephone P, but for that price I'd really prefer at least 64GB of internal storage.

J B L writes Has anyone considered the LeEco Le2? If you manage to find the Indian version, you get the Snapdragon instead of the Helio X The camera appears to be an improvement on the one included with the previous model.

I've got a P, and after the two latest updates, the phone is fantastic. My friend has P and the camera shutter is really slow. Shutter speed is OK. Not slow but not the fastest I've used either.

Photos are detailed, but a little under exposed. Only downside with the phone is it's loudspeaker. It's loud, but very tinny. That wouldn't bother me, as long as voice audio ie, listening to a caller on hands-free isn't going to be too nerve shattering 'tinny'.

Anything in particular about the P that impresses you or you feel they could have done better? I looked at the p and it's fairly impressive. You're all going to roll your eyes, but I keep going back to the redmi note 3 pro!

The reason is the battery. We're travelling nz at the moment and we went for a 1. Both of us didn't use GPS or hardly used our phones. We both are using local sim cards so no roaming. Either my phones needs a reset or I dont know.

I have a note 5. If the camera or flashing ROMs are important to you, give it a miss. I originally had the Redmi Note 3 MediaTek and the camera was acceptable. More recently, I had the Pro Snapdragon and despite it having more MPs, the camera was terrible for me.

I think it's a good phone if you like MIUI and don't plan to use the camera. If you can wait until August, you'll be able to grab the Asus ZenFone 3, which has a Snapdragon processor, beautiful build quality and band 28 MHz support.

I've been looking at 5. The Umi Super looked great until I visited the forums and found that the camera is appalling and people are experiencing GPS issues. It's so had to find something that ticks all the boxes.

The P is impressive simply because of its feature list. Only issues I have with the phone now is camera under exposes and the speaker is tinny. But it's loud and perfectly fine for loud speaker conversations.

Actual ear piece quality is great. If you can wait until August, you'll be able to grab the Asus ZenFone 3. When you run a Speedtest, what speeds are you getting with the new phone?

Haven't got the phone yet lad so I dunno! I'm the same but, as long as I can get enough to browse web pages, load fb etc i'm happy. From memory the Mhz 4G band is only for deep wall penetration assistance anyway.

That's the one brother! Will be keen to see what you think of it when you get it man. How are Bangood for delivery etc to Australia? The Vivo X7 is looking interesting with a Snapdragon However, it's been pointed out to me that all Vivo phones are ridiculously priced.

I thought it was only their flagships, but the X6 with an old MediaTek processor stills costs too much. For example in US dollars: Agree those Vivo prices appear crazy.. If it's not signiicantly cheaper than oneplus3 I can't see it selling.

What I would love is a 5. Aside from the expensive OnePlus 3 and reasonably priced ZenFone 3 , there are very few options. I'm not responsible for any of your purchases, please confirm specifications with seller etc etc that was just the first link that came up on ebay search.

Asus Zenfone 2 Not a bad find — albeit nearing 12 mths old, with a weird Intel chip and a reportedly bad camera Also the old Huawei Honor6. Xiaomi Mi 5 fits the bill: Sorry, but that's the best I could find.

I am waiting for RedMi Note3 to restock. It has been quite some time since it runs out of stocks. Just noticed this 5. Man I'm so much more excited to receive this phone now knowing that there is a super stable brand of custom CM being made for it.

Good old Snapdragon making it easy for developers: I've never ordered from them before but they seem okay so far. Order was shipped within 24 hours but I got typical Chinese store shipping service that says days and they provided a shipping number that doesn't work so you have to email them to get your shipping updates lol.

We both must say, it is the thinnest phone we have seen. Thinner seemingly than a Galaxy 7 and it looks great, more so than videos indicate. It is also very light, but the battery is amazingly long lasting.

It is very quick in everything it does, and has been playing complex games via WiFi without the WiFi dropping out, and it did not at any time heat up. The phone didn't miss a beat on the most complex of games.

There are screenfulls of ring tones, most I had never come across on any of the Chinese phones I have had. Nice and comfortable to hold, the gorilla glass screen has a protective coating designed to resist fingerprint smears.

As you know it has an excellent 13MP camera which takes great photos and videos, with stabilisation, — but isn't good for night photography. The fingerprint scanner hasn't been set up yet, but we expect it will be efficient, as entries will be made for "three persons" using the same finger, rolled around not just dabbed as on videos.

That is how I improved the performance of my Doogee F5. The only shortcomings of this phone, is, no notification LED, and a speaker which though loud, is not bassy, but otherwise quite OK.

Is the HTC 10 one of my only options at the moment? I was running Exodus on my Oneplus One for a while. Was pretty good, so you should be happy with it. I switched to Sultan's CM for it's promised better battery life, which never originated although maybe the battery is wearing out at the same rate the rom changes gave me better efficiency Well i had it, sold it within 2 days, still keep going back to the LG G2, best phone you can buy for the money and awesome rom support!

This article about cheap phones is interesting. It probably makes sense to stick with last year's flagships. The THL's didn't have 4G at the time, nearly 12 months ago. These have been fantastic, and never missed a beat.

We really put them through their paces. We are with Boost, but looking to going to Aldi. Worst phones we've ever had. I guess with the Chinese phones, you get to own a phone that works great for basic everyday tasks and most have dual SIM ability as well.

The more expensive ones tend to have better after sales support, software updates, and better camera. Even though the price is usually 5 or more times more expensive then cheapo Chinese Not including Huawei Oppo etc expensive Chinese, you still can't get the things mentioned even if you buy 5 cheapos.

Plus the Chinese phones can never have full support for the networks here excluding Taiwanese owned brands like Infocus. Which is why I'll continue using an expensive phone as my main phone, with a cheapo phone as backup.

I was looking at this UMI Super 5. I wouldn't find no AU plug a problem, is delivery the standard free one or are you spending more for expediated shipping. Visit the Umi forum first. The camera is appalling and there are GPS issues.

Then you're left with an expensive paper weight. Damn shame as it otherwise looked like a great phone ex NFC. Poor GPS is back to Mediatek dark old days. That's got better specs and it having the Snapdragon processor means it'll likely have custom ROMs available.

The hardware is good on their phones but the interface is terrible. Unlike with Xiaomi phones, you'll have no issue with unlocking the bootloader. Umi is excellent with its online marketing, however it has a shocking reputation.

It really looked like a great midrange offering on paper. I'm started to lean towards the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro. It's a great phone, apart from the camera.

The camera is very poor. Also, MIUI is an acquired taste. However, it is fast, has an excellent screen, and the battery is amazing. Yeah, I had the Le 1. The build quality was amazing.

I really didn't like the interface and the camera produced washed out pics. I think the camera is better on other models though. Cool, I'm confused as to size on the Pro. I did some extensive browsing before buying my new Chinadroid and decided to go with this.

There are a plethora of Custom ROMs available. Nexus ports, CM This is the phone to get at the moment guys. My Xiaomi Mi5 arrived last night ordered on Tuesday.

Can't believe how fast it is was previously using an iphone 6. Everything is just quick and the build quality is great as is MiUI. Really surprised that no one is mentioning the Elephone P It has NFC Wireless and quick charge, small bezels, fantastic display and battery life.

Initial issues with WiFi and camera have been ironed out through constant updates I actually sold my S7 Edge and use the Elephone as my daily. The S7 was nice don't get me wrong, but the P does the job very well.

Don't have any issues using it day to day. GPS works great as well. Worst case scenario just install Google Now launcher and you've got yourself a pure Android device. Never had an issue with them and the postage is a bit faster.

Just need a cheap backup 'phone', mainly for internet browsing, music gym, and to pop a local SIM card into when traveling overseas. Another good shop is Tomtop. Choose DHL shipping they ship really quick.

Ordered from Hong Kong Dreami on Aliexpress. Risked Aliexpress as cashrewards has 7. Phone works perfectly and is stupidly fast. Came with the global dev rom installed and all Google apps.

There is a reason the Mi5 is the most popular phone in China so it cant be all bad in fact so far it is by far the best phone I have owned. I'm glad things are improving with your P I'd be happier going with a MediaTek processor if it was at least the X20, but it's a massive bonus that it comes with stock Android.

The P10 is surprisingly quick. I don't feel any noticeable performance difference between the P and say the Snapdragon Feels faster than the There has been another update released that I haven't installed yet, not sure if that's improved it more.

Zuk Z2 and Zuk Z2 Pro added to etotalk. Descriptions appear the same despite the large price difference. How long does it normally take Bang Good to dispatch an order? Do they use DHL?

I need a seller that ships promptly if I'm going to continue experimenting with cheap phones. I've only ever bought cheap stuff with free shipping from them. I like banggood's honesty.

The One-Armed Man writes My Cubot Nore S arrived yesterday after ordering a month ago from Everbuying. So far an excellent phone with great screen. Nice clear soft plastic phone case came with the phone also.

Have bought a number of things and generally get deliries within the week of purchasing them, when shipping with DHL. Doesn't get any better than that from China. As I liked the Vernee Thor's thinness, and the comfort of it in the hand, and that it is virtually indestructible, I bought another, for myself.

I could easily have bought a UMI Touch etc, but did not want the weight of a brick in my shirt pocket. All the medium price range phones, especially those of 5. My recently bought Doogee F5 weighs grams, and to me seems heavy, and at 5.

Now some of the recent phones weigh grams. Such weight takes the pleasure out of using a phone. In this case from Gearbest again. Ive used quite a few Chinese android phones so far and ive had no problems in terms of cellular connectivity.

That being said you need to be informed and do your own research when it comes to these phone as the Frequency bands are not consistent on them. I decided to get it to use as a backup phone, until I decide on a more expensive workhorse phone.

However the OP3 is quite expensive in relation to most other Chinese smartphones. So what you guys think between my choices? One must be conscious that when you pre-order a new release phone, — it is likely the phone will be released without some of the promised features, e.

Also some phone reviews suggest that some phones operating on Android 5. But it might not happen. So, be careful before committing your dollars to a phone without there being some reviews of it on YouTube and noting it does have the features you want.

Have you considered the Le 1 Pro? The default interface is pretty poor. Unfortunately, I've been unable to find reputable sites that review either versions including the camera. I bought an Lenovo KT from China.

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Not such a crazy size. I'd be more concerned about the weight at grams — quite a bit heavier than most phones. It's not a tough one — it's impossible. The only exception that I'm aware of is the Taiwan version of the Zenfone 2, but it's 5.

Only 2GB Ram though Haven't heard much yet but price and specs look good: But p is fine min 3gb ram LTE 28 I know this one is tough. There are actually a few phones that meet those requirements, off the top of my head there's huawei p8 make sure you get the L09 version and oppo r7 , specs.

That's a very interesting phone. The battery is too small, but it's extremely thin at 7mm and has a P display. It says "YunOS support". If it runs that, it might be an interesting experience.

Vickmall doesn't list band I thought it was a stretch. Band 28 isn't listed here, either: Looking at the Cubot x17, I'm in Canberra so trying to figure out if Optus would be best for 4G plus here?

Looking at frequencies and towers available and what the X17 can run on, Voda and Optus both look like good options. Other option is the Doogee F7. Same price but bigger battery, fingerprint and faster CPU.

Not as pretty though. Can anybody recommend a preferred reliable seller from which to buy the Doogee F7? Another option to consider is the Elephone P Should be shipping in the next couple of weeks.

This phone is good value, and has just about everything, except perhaps for a fingerprint scanner as far as I noticed. The app Facelock Pro would be a good substitute, and in good light quicker than a fingerprint scanner.

Decent support Decent camera gonna be taking pics for a company Instagram Optus network Sturdy build Long battery life. I'm happy to consider models months old if they had, say, a good Cyanogenmod community or otherwise good manufacturer support.

Leaning towards Xiaomi or Lenevo at the moment. It seems that if you use Avast as your antivirus on this phone and possibly similar ones there appears a setting in 'Settings' which asks whether you want to 'turn on Avast', or not.

Otherwise Avast will just be an antivirus scanner on demand. Today, I played some Drive Cloud Videos, and was very frustrated at finding the progress bar in Landscape mode had moved up to cover the bottom third of the screen.

My other 2 phones did not have this problem. I could find no Drive setting to fix the problem. Then, I remembered I had 'turned on' Avast and went back to settings to deactivate it. Not sure if this is the appropriate forum for this, but I've been looking for somewhere to tell people about this.

It is a great piece of hardware. A real tradies phone. Check out the youtube videos https: Full specs can be found here http: It took a while but then some strange things started to happen.

The first thing I noticed is that as soon as I did the Google app update the search changed. Not the voice search, but the text based search You know, touching the Google search box word entry area.

The search window that opened just didn't look right. It still said google, but did not use Google as the search engine. It was being directed to a site "dt.

Then, later, I noticed every couple of days random games were installing themselves. They were also installing themselves regardless of what type of connection I was using Not just WiFi.

With each game roughly MB they chewed thru my mobile data cap. Only problem is you have to have the phone rooted to be able to remove this. Finally After trying about 6 different methods I found an apk which did the job Called Kingrootv4.

Then I was able to use "System app remover" by Jumobile to get rid of the Search system app Has a magnifying glass icon. Once you have removed it you can check by trying to get the text based search window up again.

You should get an error something like "Search has failed" Sorry can't exactly remember. I also prefer the Google launcher to the one Blackview supply. Cool launcher was getting very laggy.

Hey Syd, where did you buy your Blackview from? Sounds like a bit of Malware on your phone which is a worry. Got it online from a mob called Tomtop. It looks like the phones come from the factory with this issue.

It's a shame, they don't seem to want to address the problem either. You'd think a new-ish phone company would try to get things right if they wanted to make it big. Just popping in to say that i have the Elephone p with this ROM http: And boy it works well.

I get almost 2 days out of it and I'm using the Amaysim 4G network. I'm so happy with it. Thanks for your information. I think this is a good forum, to forewarn prospective owners of Chinese phones, of what they might experience if they purchase certain Chines phones.

I am looking at Kogan's Agora 4G Pro, is there a Chinese android phone that can beat it in the way of a camera? The phone must be at least 5 inch prefer 5. I would be using it for games, main use photos and social media.

I would really like a phone that actually does android updates, but that will not be a deal breaker. I am currently looking at 5. Any better options than those 2? Do they even beat the Kogan?

If camera is important, the two best options are not Chinese phones. The only other camera competition around this price would be the Nexus 5X — you would get all the updates you need in this case.

Excellent phone especially at that price. That price is insane. It's a great phone, and the camera is significantly better than the one on the Nexus 5X. Thanks for all the input.

I can feel myself drawn to the Google Nexus 6P. I love the idea of a 5. Would that be the best phone camera out there? Yes I know I am chopping and changing here, we have holidays coming up and I want a good camera without the hassle of carrying a separate camera.

I am trying to work out if it is worth going to that price. I am very good with my phones, as in they retire after a few years rather than like my husband who destroys 1 a year. Hence we never buy expensive phones for him.

After I sort my phone I will be looking for a Chinese phone with an amazing battery as he listens to audio books while working. If you want an excellent camera at a ridiculously cheap price the G4 mentioned above is hard to beat.

If you are interested, a quick look at the Kogan Ebay store would tell you. The 6p is a decent phone with a decent camera but the camera doesn't have OIS like the G4 if that's important to you.

The G4 is also very good in low light. Thanks, what you say makes sense. So G4 sounds right. Seriously I was lured by 5. The Kogan price is amazing, but ends on the 28th. I am going to miss this sale tho, we had our bank account hacked on Thursday, they emptied it.

The bank is putting it all back, but it will not happen until after the easter break. So as soon as that is sorted G4 here I come: Big thanks for the help.

Only thing is this phone may be stuck with MM, and with its bootloader unlockable you can't flash the official CM13 or any other custom ROMs. May not be important to you. The Meizu M3 Note has been announced.

Asus factory, quality assured, and they have ASUS apps which is constantly improving and updated via playstore, unlike other Chinese Androids. Chiming in late here..

The attraction I see here is well specced phones for good prices. Suggestions appreciated, sub bucks if possible Havent really been keeping up with Chinese androids for a while my backup THL t11 is going strong even used as main one while in Phils for a month.

ADSL User writes You may be interested in this deal for the Redmi Note Prime: I loved my Mi4c, but once I dropped it and cracked the screen I've had nothing but trouble.

Two replacement screens later and I still can't get it going. In a broader sense, I see this as a major problem with Chinadroids Inability of the local market to fix them.

I notice they have also poached some Samsung execs to exapand into Nth America. LeEco Le Max 2 5. LeEco Le 2 Pro 5. LeEco Le 2 5. LeEco formely LeTv seems to of announced 3 new cheapish well specced phones Hopefully they have improved the camera and software since the 1s.

I would of also changed the name of the company to something more globally popular LeTv and LeEco are still very Chinese, and they likely won't set the world on fire with that name change.

Getting a OnePlus One or Two would be better, but those two have poor cameras too. I was a little surprise that the base model wasn't a 5" version Not sure they needed two 5. But have heard a few people mention the same thing.

I use a Sony Bluetooth adapter with standard 3. I think Apple have been rumoured to be removing the 3. If true it could mean a slew of compatible Type-C iPhone headsets will be compatible in the future.

Sorry, I'm not sure how to tell if it supports Band The battery life is good for my purposes, but I'm a very light user. I don't know how long it would last under heavy use.

For a phone without a real warranty, no mhz and little 3rd party support, It is likely a bridge too far for me. I'm on the lookout for a new phone for my wife. Her Nexus 4 is having touchscreen issues parts of the screen unresponsive to touch, so I'm looking to replace it with a cheap and cheerful Chinese solution.

The only thing is, there is so many options and it's getting really confusing. For example, Xiaomi have quite a lot of different models. The Mi4 seems to be good with decent specs, but then there's the Note models which seems less well specced but cost more for some reason?

Then there's the issue of which phones work on which bands which is alos confusing she's currently with Telechoice, runs Telstra network but no 4G and throttled NextG. All she really needs is something with decent battery life, not too big, solid performance in the Nexus 4 ballpark would be good, Play store access and reliability to run apps.

If I need to do some tweaking to get things up and running like install a ROM or something, I can, but it would be good if there was a minimal of stuffing around and things just worked. Is there one model that is a clear choice for the above requirements?

Has 12 months Aussie warranty. I've had it for about 1 month so far and I'm very happy with it so far. I have unlocked the bootloader but there are a few ROM's that don't need an unlocked bootloader and have root enabled.

Id recommend the Xiaomi Mi4S or Mi5 if you can afford just that little bit more. They look nice, but probably a bit more than I was willing to spend. The Mi4 looks OK, and decently specced.

Again it gets confusing with the Mi4, 4i, 4c and 4s. The extra money for the 4s doesn't seemed justified by the relatively minor spec bump. The Redmi is an interesting one. I think it'd suit her better given it's smaller size, but it seems a waste because it's lower specced for similar money.

M8,just got the Umi Rome on Friday. Looks a lot like a Galaxy with great internals for the price. But be careful as I didn't check frequency band and now have to change to Optus network.

Previously with Telstra network. Luckily no biggy for me but so far a great phone. I have had one of these for just over a week inFocus M It really is an amazing device for the dollars.

Loaded with software and used constantly for a mix of browsing, watching youTube and playing HD videos it gives a life of between 6 and 8 hours! Minuses The inFocus V5 launcher is absolute crap!

Nova Launcher is a good choice to resurrect the lost usability. Both sim slots are 4G capable but NOT simultaneously! If you are using 4G for your data on one sim the other operates at 2G.

In spite of the limitations I am seriously considering buying another for my partner. Truly an amazing device for the dollars! I have seen some russians and Taiwanese have rooted this phone.

Apparently there was even a marshmallow dev ROM from Infocus. Can someone recommend me a Chinese phone with THE best camera for the money you can get? I'm actually willing to sell my note 5 as I believe the functionality you can run with on other androids.

But I'm not willing to downgrade on cameras that much. I treasure being able to grab my phone and take a quick pic of my boys and have great quality pics. It doesn't support U for Telstra.

I'm thinking the Mi4 looks the best choice for the price. Sure, it doesn't have latest Android, but it well specced for little money. I didn't realise that any Xiaomi phones had official CM support.

Since they're usually nightlies, I just check manually on my OnePlus One. It downloads the ROM in the background and then asks you to agree to apply the update. I am running it on my Mi3 which was also on the list for the first phones to get Android 6 my version number is 6.

So I assume it maintains apps, settings and data like a regular Android update? If so that's hella cool. However, that's just because I prefer supersu to superuser that CM includes by default in the developer menu, and because I have a custom DPI.

Main concern to me would be a key-logger, as nothing else on the phone is sensitive, but key logging my Password Safe would be a real problem. I think the Mi Max gonna sell like hotcakes.

Xiaomi spec it right and price it right. One thing I found problem with this phone is that it couldn't pair Bluetooth with any of other devices. Car stereo, speakers, etc. I don't use bt much so it doesn't bother me.

What's best place to get a mi4s? I'm using the redmi note 3 mtk version ATM good phone looking for something abit newer: I'm interested in this phone — does the phone gearbest ship come without pre-installed malware?

There was an update that broke bluetooth but I heard it has been pulled so you won't have any issues with that. I know it comes with Marshmallow but not sure if it is on 5.

My lenovo does everything I need well, unfortunately I can't upgrade it. I don't think that will fit the bill, I was looking for something with similar specs or better than what I already have.

You can get a G5 for that and be guaranteed of having the best camera on the market. It's in a different league to OnePlus and Asus. And yes, I have been looking at the Xiaomi Mi Max.

I was desperately hanging out for a software update so that the camera was actually useable, really — it was that bad. Once it came it wiped out cellular data access. Nothing at all, all gone. Don't even get me started about battery life Elephone were exactly zero help.

Antelife where i got it from are incompetent and rarely respond to emails, and if they do it's somebody different from the previous response. Paypal have surprisingly been no help whatsoever so i'll likely be out of pocket.

A phone that you might like to look into is the Umi Super. It has very decent specs and comes with stock Marshmallow. It's the only Umi phone I've seen that supports both 3G and I'm done experimenting with other Chinese brands.

I've used Xiaomi before and that'll do me fine for a secondary device. Huawei i'd be content if price wise they didn't miss the mark. Actually, the Umi Iron and Touch have received a lot of negative feedback online.

Scratch my excitement for the Super. Looks like a nice upgrade on the Touch which is still to hit distribution, so would be somewhat surprised if this makes its launch target.

There are phones with better cameras, better batteries, better displays even, but it's better than the sum of it's parts and that's why i've had it for so long.

I had considered the Umi Touch orginally, but figured if that was an option then the RN3 was the safer bet. These lesser chinese brands seem content with churning out device after device.

They should make half the product perhaps and spend three times as much time on software. I got a OnePlus One in October. It's the only smartphone I've ever had, but holy damn am I impressed with how well it performs for such a small price.

Listening to music doesn't drain the battery nearly as much as my old iPod R. I went from a HTC oneX to the Xiaomi Mi3 am 2 weeks off using it for 2 years, would really like an Mi4s but can't seem to want to relegate it it to the cupboard yet.

Every phone has different hardware which requires different drivers and optimisations. Could I get some thoughts on the Blackview bv http: Will it work with Telstra and Vodafone? Will I be able to have play store on it.

Recommendations of where to purchase would also be greatfully received. Finally heard from Antelife. Response was "yeah, we can't fix this But Vodafone is dropping 3G so 3G which is used regional will be used in suburbia as well I beleive this to be right.

And did I mention how fast 4G is? First thing I did was flash it with Marshmallow, root it and remove some of the bloat. Popped an Aldi sim in it and so far it's been performing brilliantly.

The zip has a beta SuperSU included. Extract it and put it on a microSD and put that in your phone before flashing. Install it from TWRP. We will see how that goes when it arrives.

Well, my Zopo speed 8 is on the way. Looking forward to it. Don't s'pose anyone on here has theirs already. The umi super, or the zopo speed 8? Or am I missing one completely?

I ordered it a couple of months ago on preorder for a lower price. I expect it here on Tuesday. I have to plug the phone to a notebook and use adb to boot to recovery.

Took me a while to switch English. All good so far with Marshmallow. Zopo Speed 8 has just arrived. About 15mm taller than my Zopo but very nice so far. Just have to do an update.

Be careful with these guys — absolute crooks. Currently "dealing' with them now to get my money back on an Elephone P Sheez that is just so bleeding old for a new release tablet. Slightly confused, have flashed many a file before but most of the translations are hard to follow.

Do i have to flash TWRP before i flash a rom? Looks like it but where do i get it from? The xda links above links to another forum in italian? I've been hanging out ever since my Nexus S to be able to pay for stuff with my phone.

I'm not about to give up now that android pay is imminent in Australia. My bank is one of the few that doesn't have its own tap n pay app St George and when I tried Optus Pay my phone wasn't compatible it had a very short compatibility list.

Thanks mate, got the marshmallow downloaded just didnt know it had twrp there as well. Tried this but it shows an error, no idea why, installed all the required drivers as well. I haven't been on the Forum for a while, so don't know whether the new start up Company Vernee and it's first phone the Vernee Thor has been discussed.

Pity it doesn't have a notification LED, but most of us can live with that. For instance you could install a missed call and notification app that will provide a notification ring or sound.

This tiny Korean designed phone gets a Vodafone signal, even deep inside supermarkets or Malls Sydney. It never fails to send or receive voice or texts and runs on the GMS G2 networks.

The usual power switch is on the keyboard. It claims to be dual SIM. The left receptacle is for a TF memory card. The language on the screen is English. Even plays an opening and closing theme song.

Just came across a violent testing video for the Vernee Thor, and it seems indestructible, being dropped numerous times, cracking open walnuts and being run over by a car. I'm aware I may need to downclock the CPU a little to keep temps good.

I hear the x runs cool but so we'll see I noticed there are a few ROMs out for it which is good! Is this the one dude? Everytime I look, I always go back to the redmi note 3 pro 3gb. For the money it looks fantastic along with the battery.

The only negative is the kinda subpar camera. Maybe it's because I have a note 5 who knows. But anyway, anyone got anymore suggestions before I pull the trigger? I'm in the same boat as you.

I'm considering the Elephone P, but for that price I'd really prefer at least 64GB of internal storage. J B L writes Has anyone considered the LeEco Le2? If you manage to find the Indian version, you get the Snapdragon instead of the Helio X The camera appears to be an improvement on the one included with the previous model.

I've got a P, and after the two latest updates, the phone is fantastic. My friend has P and the camera shutter is really slow. Shutter speed is OK. Not slow but not the fastest I've used either.

Actual ear piece quality is great. If you can wait until August, you'll be able to grab the Asus ZenFone 3. When you run a Speedtest, what speeds are you getting with the new phone?

I thought it was only their flagships, but the X6 with an old MediaTek processor stills costs too much. For example in US dollars: Agree those Vivo prices appear crazy..

If it's not signiicantly cheaper than oneplus3 I can't see it selling. What I would love is a 5. Aside from the expensive OnePlus 3 and reasonably priced ZenFone 3 , there are very few options.

I'm not responsible for any of your purchases, please confirm specifications with seller etc etc that was just the first link that came up on ebay search.

That is how I improved the performance of my Doogee F5. The only shortcomings of this phone, is, no notification LED, and a speaker which though loud, is not bassy, but otherwise quite OK.

We really put them through their paces. We are with Boost, but looking to going to Aldi. Potential buyers of imports should also note, that most of these imported phones might lack full LTE support, such as not having LTE band 28 etc Walk in warranty means sending to Fonebiz who are rubbish.

Better off taking the risk and getting a proper phone. Local stock meant nothing in the case of the R9 Plus which still has issues with the Telstra network. Tiny pre-review article on the R9s http: I've had no issues taking back an R9 for a friend at JB-HiFi and getting a full refund within the first two week as it had a weird issue with crackling in the earpiece while on a call.

Looks to be quite decent really. If the phone is good out of the box, who needs the updates I know my fulmics version is way out of date now, but if it's working fine then there's no need to get more updates.

I think the price is too high Won't be porting my old number over until my old Optus contract expires on 5th Feb. Sales rep on the online chat said it should take about 4 business days so hopefully the phone should come either Wed or Thur next week.

Will post up a full review when I get my hands on the phone and have some time to play around with it. I agree, after waiting for this mobile to arrive and have been looking at it for a long time I now feel that the Oneplus 3 is the better spec"d phone albeit that it doesn't have an external memory card reader but with 64gb inbuilt storage I can live with that.

Considering they're marketing it as a high end quality camera in a mid range phone it should be decent, especially seeing as they have saved costs on plenty of other stuff like nfc and water proofing.

Cant really complain with 16mp front and rear cameras. I'm using a review device at the moment reviewing it for my tech blog. Don't have a chance to try shooting in low light but here is a photo I took yesterday: Overall I really like the sleekness of the phone.

Sure it screams iPhone all over, even with the "non-button" home button. But the Black one is sexy as hell, really slim, and lighter than an iPhone that I usually use 7 Plus.

Out of curiosity do you get to keep the gadgets you review or do you have to give them back? How are you finding the screen as in is it hard to clean fingerprints off the screen because the r9 didn't seem to be able to have much of that oleophobic coating on it.

The screen has a protector applied to it, as like any other OPPO phones — which is good because you know hard it is to apply a perfect screen protector without any bubbles.

As a result, however, screen may struggle a bit more under direct sun light. Cleaning wise, I pour a bit of water and just wipe with tissue or my cloth. Or if it's not too bad, I can wipe it out with my thumb.

There was a month and half difference between the releases in most the other regions. No concrete date for AU at the moment so that's all the information I can give.

Phone arrived this morning, but I was dropping my kid at school, and they wouldn't let my wife sign for it, so now I gotta wait till 3pm to pick it up from the post office Darn, I was hoping to use my old sim in this phone until the contract ran out 5 days, but the old sim is a micro sim and the R9S uses nano sim.

The old sim isn't even one of those ones that can snap off into a micro, oh well. I'll just have to wait. First impressions of the R9S — considering i've been playing around without a sim card.

I've been able to set up the fingerprint scanner which works blisteringly fast — faster than any i've seen on a phone before. The cameras took some damn nice photos too beauty mode doing a fine job of removing some of my wrinkles!

Will muck around more tonight in low light conditions to see the results. I also LOVE that it comes with a clear silicone case. My last phone I bought a silicone case for on ebay which arrived 1 day after I had a hairline crack in the phone To open up the box of the R9s and see a case included is a bonus and reassurance.

I was hoping to use my old sim in this phone until the contract ran out 5 days,. SIM swaps are 'free'. So pop in to your local telco shop and get a new FREE simcard. Have come from an LG G3 — so this is like a breath of fresh air.

Although the screen size is the same. The R9s is slightly longer in length, yet thinner and lighter than the G3. Everyone knows the pain of trying to install a bubble-free screen protector so it's great that its already been done for us!

Currently still getting used to some of the features and exploring the phone. Not sure if I want to install Nova Prime launcher over the top yet. At night, when the phone goes into DND mode it displays "night mode" in the status bar instead of the time.

Lots of launchers you can use, from Googles own, to Nova. Each to their own. I'm not a fan of the 'stock' Oppo one. Yeah the camera is a LOT better than the G3. Still working how to get pics off the phone with a cable direct to computer.

It says it has installed the OPPO driver but can't seem to get a searchable menu on my PC to navigate through the phone. Here's a comparison of some photos, one out side and one inside — no settings tweaked, just auto everything.

Oppo Outdoor — https: Might need to tweak some settings. Here is the LG equivalent — https: Now here is the Oppo Indoor shot with low light — https: Compare this to the LG low light version — https: I'm sure with some decent tweaking I could get those outside shots looking better.

Haven't had much time to play around with the camera settings yet. I've spoken to Oppo support today and they confirmed in writing that the R9S supports 4G on Sim 1 and 3G on Sim 2 simultaneously — this is consistent with the Snapdragon chipset as well.

We will do our best to assist you with your concern. I am loving this phone. Everything about it just oozes quality. The free pre-applied screen protector and free case were also nice touches.

In my opinion the only thing that lets it down a bit is ColorOS. While it looks nice I'm not a fan of the unintuitive settings layout and the ton of non-removeable bloatware. I tried long press in empty space but nothing happens.

Pinch the centre of the screen, should open widget and effects down the bottom. Does on my oppo f1s running colorOS 3. Interesting as that seems to be the only way to access widgets. Couldn't find a setting for them at all in the settings menu.

I wonder what other secrets ColorOS 3 is hiding? I just ordered the Oppo R9S from Virgin and have already received it. I like the phone so far but the main reason I got it was to use the dual sim feature and to avoid having two phones, work and personal.

So far the second sim can't be read by the phone at all. Does anyone know why this might be happening as I am lost and am really hoping that its something i'm doing wrong: I bought the wife an R9s, and she uses Hotspot all the time but it's not in the quickmenu.

My other droid phones have let me edit this menu, not Oppo? I'm messing around with colour os for a while longer, however is looking to me installing Nova prime over the top. Sure it might take up some space but it'd be worth it for the customisation.

Thank you so much for your answer to my question, this makes a lot more sense now. I will have to tackle Virgin and see if I can get out of it haha! If anyone's interested I wrote a review of this phone: I'm liking this phone less and less every minute.

It seems that Oppo have tried to do an Apple and lock the user out of everything. Once Nova was installed I had to make an additional change to stop it reverting back to the standard launcher when pressing the home key.

The one you want to change is the 'Homescreen'. I set that to 'Nova Launcher'. I use a 3rd party email app [blue mail] which doesn't appear to show notifications through arrow launcher.

I know with nova launcher u need to install tesla unread to get the correct notifications so might give that a go. Really all the wife wants is an outlook notification widget on the lock screen, but i haven't found a way to get that to work yet.

I don't use outlook so can't help you. I use bluemail which consolidates all my emails better than outlook could. This has its own widget but only puts a notification on the lock screen.

What's the fuss about having the widget on the lock screen anyway. Surely if you saw a notification u would open the phone up anyway? And with the speed of fingerprint unlocking on the r9s It's also produce by Microsoft like Arrow but ironically won't connect to the Outlook calendar for notifications.

Because my wife wants it. She's coming from years of Windows phone and is irritated by the lack of instant access to her information. Can't she just have the default home screen full of widgets? That way she just insta-unlocks using fingerprint and all the information she needs is there.

Quicker than using the lock button I reckon. Fingerprint recognition is so fast on this phone I never see my lock screen.. If you want some more low-light photos taken with the R9S — https: I'm guessing it will still be at least a couple of months.

No official word as yet but rest assured Neil will post in this thread when an official announcement is imminent. I got this phone last week. Everything seems to be good so far except the vibration strength is very weak and I keep missing calls.

Is there a way to increase the vibration intensity? Damn i need a new phone It appears that Woolworths's Oppo R9S is dual sim We will do our best to help. I think based on previous models, OPPO is very unlikely to confirm any updates to any of its phones, even though the R9 and F1s were confirmed to be getting Marshmallow in Q2 of this year, I won't be holding my breath for Nougat anytime soon.

Also, I got an Mate 8 before form ebay, it has Google Play, but does not sync google contact. I just picked up one of these for my wife. Her 5 month old G5 is failing again with the volume down button no longer working and also the rear fp sensor has moved from its spot.

I think it is worth the upgrade if you can afford it — whilst the r9 is dual sim standby, the 2nd sim is only capable of 2G, which is no longer supported in Australia, so it becomes a standard single sim mobile with the 2nd sim slot for a microSD card.

Also, the R9S chip is a Snapdragon not a Helio one, so it's better. I've got a R9S myself and love it. Since putting Nova launcher on this phone I couldn't be happier. Everything runs smooth, especially with the nightly cleanup that is prompted by the phone.

The battery life is brilliant. I think if I didn't play games on it at night I would easily get 2 days before having to charge [vooc charging is amazing too]. I wish notifications would show up straight away from the pull down menu instead of having to swipe right but that's a minor thing.

Thankfully the fingerprint works, but im stumped on how you can reset the pattern when you need to actually do it first. Even though I am doing the pattern exactly as I set it up, its not working.

Setting it up makes you do it twice anyway and now doesnt work. I love it too but like at least one other person I've seen, my alarms don't always go off after the phone has been idle all night.

I've turned off the background freeze in settings. Google clock doesn't work at all, Alarm Clock Plus I have more luck with. Turning off the 'freeze' in app settings, adding to 'startup' group and adding to whitelist.

Basically the phone doesn't seem to support other SMS apps. I've noticed on the OPPO community forum that others have the same issue. OPPO support has gone quiet and not replied for the last few days now.

Like you, other clock apps don't work my usual was 'Timely' as they get killed off or freeze. The settings I've changed as below: I am still doing the tests on Textra at the moment and will advise findings when I have more information.

I don't have the start up manager anywhere under privacy permissions. Also can you elaborate how to lock an app? Does this only work on stock launcher? Can confirm locking apps works with Nova launcher.

Just push the square button — bottom left of phone. Instead of swiping up to remove the apps you can swipe down to lock the app so that it can't be removed by optimisation and such.

Thanks Neil — I had all the settings for 'Timely' that you mention but wasn't "locking the app" from the app list. I'll post up how that works for me as an alarm clock in a few days — as it's normally only after the phone has not been used for a number of hours such as overnight, that the app gets killed off and the alarm doesn't fire.

As for the Textra issue. Still the same issue. It might receive a text or two, and then the popup will occur when a subsequent sms is received and revert back to the factory messaging app. As you have mentioned, locking the app in the app list seems to keep the alarm clock apps like 'Timely' running and working correctly.

Also wanted to confirm Textra is working correctly also? I haven't been able to get that error message in the last 2 days of testing Android Wear app, I have it locked in the background and I still have to enable notification each morning.

Actually I can confirm that third party messaging apps do not work correctly. I'm not sure what testing you did. Textra could be installed and configured as the default messaging app.

It might then receive 2 or 3 SMS messages, but eventually the popup message occurs when receiving a message and the messaging app is reset back to the Oppo messaging app.

The same issue was raised in an Oppo Community forum post re using Google Messenger as the default messaging app — http: Below is a copy of the response I received via email from Oppo Support in Australia that in fact says that ColorOS 3 is not designed to support apps.

Unfortunately this backs up my experience — even after resetting the phone. Hi John, Thank you for your response. Regarding your messaging app issues, we had an update with our technical team, and this was their response: This design had been used to OS3.

For there are a lot of third party APPs, if the devices are set the 3rd party APPs as messages, the security of devices cannot be guaranteed, so we decided not to allow customer set 3rd party APPs as messages.

We sincerely apologize for the trouble that you had to go through, and even doing a factory data reset on the phone as well, but it really is a limitation on the phone.

Again, We're really sorry for the inconvenience sir. The best I can do, is to raise this as feedback, but we cannot promise anything yet or even a time frame for actual changes.

If there's anything else that we can assist you with, please let us know. Have a great day. It does seem strange that there is a setting to change the default messaging app, but that Oppo say that ColorOS is not designed to allow this.

I've tried multiple messaging apps in case it was a Textra issue, and the same error occurs with all of them. Hi John, been able to validate this issue after sending receiving multiple sms at once.

I've spoken to the QA team and they do have the information that currently security centre blocks 3rd party sms applications. I've also tested facebook messenger and Google Hangouts to the same error.

A request has been made to add these 2 to the whitelist to give users a choice. I had tried adding the apps to the whitelist — but I'm guessing from what you say a software update is required.

Even if the app I prefer Textra is not included, something like "Android Messenger" would be a good addition also This is what google now call their default messaging app after renaming it a few days ago.

My wife's LG phone has just died after 1. This is very disappointing. My R9s always defaults back to the default messages app. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but the Color OS messages app is not very good.

I've been following this thread pretty closely as I was keen on the new R9s and must say I'm a little disappointed that Oppo isn't modifying their ROM and ColorOS for the western world.

I was a big advocate of the R9 and R9 Plus range and have recommended it to a fair few people until the fairly serious issues with notifications, bluetooth and issues with the Telstra network were discovered.

This is a major pain in the backside and I've been hearing it lately from my mate who I recommended an R9 Plus to. I've tried every setting under the sun and sometimes push notifications work fine, while other times they simply don't appear till the app is opened up.

The phone simply cannot be trusted to deliver real time push notifications. Bluetooth is another big downside when paired to Android Wear. The watch simply loses connection to the phone, and it does not auto reconnect at all.

He was previously using the same watch with a Nexus 5 and a Huawei Mate 7 without a single issue. He also had major issues on the Telstra network with dropouts and instead of returning the phone he switched to Optus, which did fix the issue but the solution was extreme.

Oppo is aware of all the above and have done nothing to address and fix these major problems with their devices. The issue with not being able to set default apps is a strange one. A simple popup warning about security when changing defaults would have been enough.

In my opinion all oppo need to do is allow their bootloader to be unlocked so others can develop alternate software and mods to flash to the device. Come on Oppo add English Australia. I was really looking forward to the R9s, but it looks like nothing has changed.

All of the issues you mentioned is why I sold the Oppo after a few days of use. I'd bought it for the wife and all I got was complaints. She loves her new phone though, as it actually allows her to set it the way she wants it to work.

I suspect others feel the same way. If you just want a phone that you can text and make calls an Oppo is great. Otherwise they have a lot of quirks. Will be interesting to see how it goes with Telstra and reception I won't be a guinea pig this time around as much as I like the phone The r9s runs marshmallow out of the box too It's nougat we really want.

Well its doing better than some other devices still running 5. This is a Oppo thread, I'm talking Oppo devices, all them run 5. Not that I'm saying thats an issue. The devices are skinned you can't really notice.

But it would be nice for them all to get on the 6. Some users don't mind, while others hate the idea of a new flagship being released with an older version of Android. OH some reason I thought this was 5.

I have been researching in regard Nougat update and come across this page which allow people to easily update to latest Nougat for Oppo R9S and R9S Plus, just follow the instruction as per the links below.

Hope this works for you guys. I haven't got one yet but planning to buy soon. Nougat update links posted above and on previous page are fake and contains trojan virus. Perhaps Neil can confirm or not?

Sorry for the vague question but I'm an iPhone user and can not get used to anything Android I have tried. My husband has never before had a smartphone, and just bought the R9s Plus.

He can't read the little manual that came with it small print and there isn't anything available online that we found in. A few issues, perhaps the folks here can help:. Is there a lifeproof or similar case available?

Uploading music did not show albums, only individual tracks uploaded by simple drag and drop, not using the upload app. He isn't sure he wants to use the cloud.

Somehow, all of his photos got uploaded to the phone, and he does not recall how. I can't see any settings for bulk deletion. The whole OS is so different for me and not intuitive, I've been using iPhone for seven years and not a heavy user of that either, so I'm having trouble helping him.

The stock music player a very basic. Try using Poweramp Music Player from the play store instead. If you're not going to update your phones, then allow your bootloader to be unlocked so others can do your job for you.

Not sure where this site gets it info from, but it says the R9S will be getting nougat on there — http: It would be my first android phone jumping from windows phone so just wanted to confirm some details.

The color OS looks nice in photos but if I don't like it I have read about launchers does this remove the color OS or just change the way icons are layed out? Just wondering why the site link I posted above would say that it is.

Love my R9s, few problems with wi-fi in that it wouldn't pick up the 5GHz network at all until I changed my router settings from 'auto' to channel 36 manually Hopefully those default apps settings don't get changed back by security Centre after a reboot, please let me know if that happens to you.

Hi, initial request to HQ is to add Hangouts and FB messenger to whitelist to be changed for this option. Will confirm once more information on update is available. This question has been asked and answered already.

The answer is no. OPPO do not care about supporting their products with software updates. All the information was available on Oppo's official forums. Was an advocator for Oppo.

Then they decided to lock the bootloader, not update their ROMs and basically not respond on their official forums. I understand they're catering to the mass market now rather than more "technical" users which is obviously a bigger market I mean Heck even though Xiaomi come with a locked boot loader and you can't just unlock you can at least apply to have it done.

This means mass market are happy and rommers are happy. Neil and his predecessor Omar are doing a great job supporting the forum and Oppo Australia but lets face it we're not even a pimple on a pumpkin in terms of the world: Find 7a running Nougat 7.

Can anyone confirm if the Woolworths Oppo R9s on a plan are unlocked. I want to use a Telstra sim and a Optus sim. Yes if you check the woolworths mobile thread they replied to me that all there phones are unlocked.

The only phones 'locked' these days, are ones sold as prepaid. All contract based phones are unlocked. Keep in mind I don't game or fiddle with my phones much, I need the phone equivalent of an i5 desktop — a dependable workhorse:.

Unlike the Plus model this is running the which is built on a 14nm process the in the plus is built off 28nm so battery life will be better and there won't be any heat issues.

No USB Type 3 v3. Would not budge further. Yes this hardware can be had for half priced drop shipped in but I have no interest in fiddling with ROMs that may or may not be malware filled, lack of bands, and lack of support.

I don't customise Android and tend to use stock apps for most things unless they suck and it works well. App management is aggressive by default but can be scaled back — Security Centre can be stopped from running automatically and apps can be allowed to run no matter what from the battery page — by default they will be frozen and then murdered when any "abnormal" activity happens.

Both of these can be toggled off. However even though apps stayed in memory I couldn't get Outlook to push notifications although the stock email app works fine and it is a touch simpler for basic emailing things so not too bad.

Calls and text were fine. The stock messaging app is sufficient and this time I didn't need Textra cheap prepaids sometimes have absolute jokes for the stock text app. The settings page also needs to be rejigged, app management and storage is buried under other settings which has the rest of the settings although the categorization is OK; you won't find 3 settings in 3 different places.

The granularity is impressive — everything from do not disturb to gestures can be tweaked and fiddled with. A slight aside for video decoding. Still, multiple audio tracks worked fine even a 7.

Switching between apps was smooth, nothing died. So media is just fine. OS is based off Marshmallow and even with no future updates there is nothing here that resembles Android so you are not exactly missing much.

Apps still support creaky old KitKat so when the minimum threshold inevitably crossed to Lollipop you are still covered. That said, this really should have been released with Nougat out of the box.

This and the notifications are the only two flaws I ran into. No complaints, nothing creaks or flexes. Reception is also fine for Optus and this phone does support MHz.

If you want this to be used overseas US band support mostly 3G, so be forewarned. Camera — Compared to what I normally use the difference is Industrial Revolution before and after.

Will need to test more but for the price its more than sufficient. Yes, although ColorOS still needs work, its only been around since ish so its still maturing. However even though apps stayed in memory I couldn't get Outlook to push notifications.

Thanks for the review. This could be a deal breaker for me. My work is heavily invested in all Microsoft. I would appreciate an update if you get it working.

I use bluemail which does seem to have a little trouble with push notifications, but less than Outlook. It appears to update emails about once every 2 hours yet I can find no setting anywhere to change this.

I don't have enough information on this to answer it at this stage. All I can confirm is that there is no confirmed date for release of Nougat update.

Thanks for the comprehensive review. We have had a 2 updates which were targeted towards notifications on ColorOS. We will definitely look into this further about Outlook.

Further to my original review, battery life is excellent for the basic usage I put it through, calls are clear with excellent noise suppression and the SoC supports HD Voice and the OS is stable, there have been no glitches or crashes my old prepaid had a nasty habit of the camera app crashing.

The only real irritation is notifications. You can lock apps hold and drag down in the recents menu which will cause a small lock to appear in the app and stop it being murdered if you haven't disabled those settings from the battery menu.

Most stock apps are already pre-locked. If the notifications issue is workable for you and the Security Centre can be partially shut up with apps being configurable this is a fine choice.

If there was a future update there should be a killswitch to disable and kill off the Security Centre, although as above apps can be configured to be left alone in memory.

All that said this is recommended, notifications aside. However they don't have the black one and can't do any discount on the white. I wonder the black one is only available to woolworth contract and mobiciti.

The Black R9s Plus should be available shortly. As for a discount, just like any brand new product they generally don't discount or only take off a little bit. That's my experience with JB-HiFi.

Sure rip iOS off but its still Android underneath, there really should be a dismiss option. It rings and that is it. Nothing in the app itself and with the notification issues I wouldn't trust a replacement clock app.

There is a clear all option which is good. Logical to have downloads and records in one place, not so logical to add an extra tap. You need to hold down the onscreen button say WiFi which will then directly open that setting.

The way it works is odd but workable. Which doesn't really matter although this is probably a Microsoft Exchange thing. I did buy this for the hardware especially at the price, but be aware ColorOS is still rough, not in stability stability is great, but in usability which arguably is more important.

Nothing is an exact dealbreaker, and price wise I still would consider Oppo for future phones. Hi can anyone tell me how the camera is on the plus model? The camera is important to me, does it stack up against the galaxy s7.

It has OIS, so shouldn't be too bad. I had a play with the chained up ones in store and it seemed pretty good. There is flickering on the R9s screen. You can test this out by waving a pen vigorously in front of the screen.

You will see jagged pen marks instead of a smooth pen sweep. You will notice this if you dim the screen brightness to it's lower settings the higher brightness settings don't have the flicker.

Unfortunately I usually have my screen at lower brightness and cannot tolerate this flicker. I was wondering why I was getting saw eyes looking at it, and now I know. Such a shame, because I was happy with the phone until I noticed this serious flaw.

Almost everything else I liked. I don't know why Oppo wastes it's time coming up with it's ColorOS. It's a terrible UI, and that way they can devote more energy to eliminate design flaws, such as screen flicker.

Does anyone know if the R9s Plus also has this flicker problem? But I wan't to be sure so I don't have to return that too. I did some checks on brightness levels and flickering on my R9s.

Is that the case for anyone else? My solution so far: I too found conflicting reports. I hope it's IPS, since this may avoid the flickering issue. Definitely conflicting reports out there.

Having just done a bit of research I can't find anything solid. You'd think Oppo's website is the one that would be accurate, but who knows. I had a quick look at the R9s Plus next to an R9s at JB-HiFi last week and it looked very very similar in terms of blacks and contrast.

Some may miss the Ultra-high definition, colour-popping AMOLED screens seen on competitors but for general use and photography we had no complaints — especially as this type of screen tends to boost battery life.

I haven't seen a box yet and even googling doesn't give me any clear images of the box. If someone heads in to JB-HiFi they can ask to see a box and see what it says on it.

We'll wait for confirmation, I guess. I have a nexus, Nougat is over rated Most OEMs skin the hell out of it anyhow and oppo is no different. My friend with a S7, can't tell the difference between 6 or 7 as its skinned alike.

I've been fiddling around with my R9s now for two days. I've noticed that most of my time spent has been devoted to trying to turn the phone into a Stock Android experience as much as possible.

But I'm failing miserably. It doesn't seem to matter that it's running on Marshmellow. My old phone was a very cheap Huawei running Android 4. And I would be willing to forgo the fingerprint scan and the 16MP camera.

The same question can be asked to all major smartphone vendors. Some are just worse than others. Yes, I'm running Nova Launcher which is a great improvement. I strongly dislike the default Clock app and Message app, but apparently I'm unable to change them to my much preferred Textra and Clock By Google.

The posts on this forum indicate that changing these default apps cause performance issues, such as not receiving messages or the alarm not working. But, despite being unable to use my favourite apps, I really can't believe how little I'm able to customise my phone in the Settings.

For example, I can't change the icons on the drop down panel, or I have to swipe twice to reach my notifications. I can't remove the lock screen, which I prefer not having. I just feel like this phone is uncustomisable!

Being able to customise is very important to me and the reason I always bought Android phones in the past. Nope that didn't work for me, or maybe I can't follow instructions: Really disappointed with the inability to switch to a third party messaging app Textra.

The system app is absolute rubbish and overrides every time. I've got just about everything running close to what I had with the Oppo R7s except for that one thing.

This is due to ColorOS deciding that Oppo's built in messaging app is better than anything else. This is a known issue, and has already been passed on to Oppo as a suggestion to fix for future ColorOS updates.

I guess we should be thankful that we can change the launcher to Nova which allows for better customisation than ColorOS. I've had an extensive look at a friend's Huawei 5. The model is a GR5 from officeworks, and also runs Marshmallow after updates.

Including such things as Battery manager, Data traffic manager such a blocking an apps background data, Shortcut panel changes, Apps menu, etc, all typical features any current Android phone should have!

This is just too important to be without imo. Of coarse the hardware is not as great. But being only half the price and no longer having to deal with annoying software limitations, I think I ought to return this OPPO.

The Qualcomm Snapdragon is a bit of a dog in the SoC world. It can bog down dramatically with a lot of stuttering and locking up especially in warmer days. I don't remember the last time I was in the settings, or having to block background data for an app etc I have no doubt Oppo is designing these phones with the average Joe in mind.

Of course as you said if this is important to you so maybe finding a device that can cater for this is while sacrificing hardware and design might be the way to go. Runs very well, no bogging down at all!

Runs better than my Nexus 5x by a longshot! A new GR5 model got released. Better specs etc, so the old one will be ran out soon enough! After reinstalling apps and double checking the settings it seems that the notification issues are gone.

I was also getting dropped calls as by default the phone decides to drop unknown callers. So it now seems that with any Oppo phone in the future make sure you check the settings app at least four times.

I will be posting my honest and unbiased thoughts and opinions on the device and also trying to answer any questions for users that own the device, and for those looking in to getting an Oppo phone.

First impressions are how gorgeous the screen is and how well put together it is! It does look like an LCD panel, but I can't confirm at this stage. The box just lists it as a 6 inch screen and doesn't tell us the screen technology used.

Oppo phones appear to be a great for those who want to buy a phone from a bricks and mortor store that they can just buy and use for general day to day Phone, SMS, Internet, Candy Crush etc.

Buy a different phone. This strategy has worked well for Apple so I guess they're hoping to target the same audience which is the majority of smartphone users ;.

Give it a day or so, you might be able to work it out. Did Neil ever get back to us on what screen? Looking forward to testing it out. From my limited indoor use tonight I have to say it's impressive.

IOS seems to work wonders in low light. The front facing camera is a cracker, it's very detailed and sharp. Details are in my article. I've verified the information provided by the AusDroid website and I can confirm this information based on information provided to me so far.

I see the update on my R9s Plus too but I'm a little hesitant to let it update with the description all being in Chinese: I'll post a full changelog once I get it. The change log Chinese characters is basically the default input.

No specific details was posted. I noticed it turned off the turn on screen for notifications setting, the led light was turned off in the settings as well, it reset my volumes for media and ring, and also set my notification sounds to NONE.

I don't know if this was intentional or if its a bug, but I've had to go through all the settings to set things back the way I had them: Did you have any of the above happen to your R9s Plus, or was I simply unlucky and something went wrong?!

Just got R9s Plus via Woolworth mobile and look forward to test out this phone. Let us know when it arrives — my wife ordered one this morning and — well, patience is not her strong suit Use the tools you have!

Screenshot the info, and feed it into the Google Translate app Sorry for the salt regarding lack of updates guys. Just pisses me off when manufacturers don't provide adequate software support, especially with newly released flagship models.

Still love my R9S. Got the phone on Monday and keep playing with it. The finger print recognition is absolutely blasting. Battery last for a day of heavy use. All the apps installed work flawlessly.

VOCC charging is good. For me the update removed carrier name from up top and won't let me reenable it. Odd indeed, I had mine to not show carrier name and after the update it was showing.

I was able to turn it off again though. This was a weird update causing different issues to different handsets it seems. I'm sure Neil will pass on our concerns.

Great to have a phone that looks just like everyone else's iPhone in her office, yet larger and lighter I've suggested she drain and then fully charge the battery a couple of times to condition it, so she'll be testing the quick charge capability too.

As for VOOC cables, do they differ from normal ones? However, all we sell is the USB cable, AC plug and replacement headphones not the car charger as we usually sell these to customers who've either lost or broken theirs in an accident.

So far my wife is delighted with virtually everything about the phone — especially the camera, and believe me she is TOUGH to please when it comes to photography what she really wants is her Canon DSLR shrunk to pocket size Like others on this forum, she's not happy with the messaging app, so hopefully that becomes less of an issue over time.

But otherwise — battery life, build quality it feels oddly light for a gm phone! Try and beat that: OK, there's also a problem with the Contacts app — it's not collecting my wife's business contacts from Outlook or Google contacts together.

And when she tries to download Google Contacts, it's listed as "not compatible with this device" I'm gonna start hunting around the XDA forums for a way around this, but in the meantime, does anyone here have any ideas?

Would side-loading the app work, or is that just a waste of time? I struggled with similar issues on my old Lenovo. This phone is simply fantastic in hardware terms, but the annoying SMS app and the unacceptable Contacts app are causing serious friction around here!

Have you tried downloading it from APK mirror? That's a strange one. I didn't do anything special to get my Contacts on the phone. Just the initial log in to my Google account upon set up pulled them all down: Neil has passed on our concerns with the inability to change the SMS app, so hopefully they're working on something.

As you said, the hardware is top notch, but the software has a way to go. The positive is they're constantly working on thing and pushing updates out at a consistent rate and most importantly, listening to us and our concerns.

Thanks, but I know how to side-load — I'm just wondering if it's worth the time. Side-loading an app doesn't mean it'll work, as I've learned from long and frustrating experience And already we've confirmed that switching the SMS app just leads to the phone switching it back after a few uses which is absurd — if it's really a security decision, why allow the switch in the first place?

I'm sure Neil's doing all he can, but Oppo is a big company. This is still a very new phone — I can hardly find anything but questions about it on XDA-developers! Absolutely understand your frustration with this.

OPPO will be providing an update on this this week. The dual pane notification thing is redundant, the stock option works just fine and I don't mind either way but its still just odd.

The settings app needs to be rejigged and condensed down and the auto block by default for unknown callers needs to go. Its also highly irritating to fiddle with settings in 2 different places just to try out new apps and make sure they are not murdered by default.

Solid Explorer works just fine. I have not run into any glitches or oddities, signal strength is great, calls are clear and loud, WiFi is fine. Its only software that needs work and while all the above you can live with or work around ColorOS still needs major polish.

After using a R9s Plus for close to two weeks now, I'll throw in my two cents of what I think of your observations. Hopefully it'll help Neil pass this on to the coders back home ;.

It's annoying having to swipe down and then swipe to get to the left panel where the notifications are located. A single panel would have been way better. I have no problem with this to be honest, there are a lot of options of how notifications are shown.

My problem is the buggy implementation of notifications which do not follow the settings I have selected for them and sometimes work and sometimes don't. Sometimes my screen will turn on for notifications as selected in the settings and sometimes it will refuse to, while other times the screen will turn on when a notification arrives but the notitication will not be shown on the lockscreen as I had selected in the settings etc Neil is aware of this issue and Oppo is working on it from what I've been told.

There are simply way to many steps and settings to fiddle with to get notifications and apps to not be killed off by the system. Your average person will have no idea on how to go about all this.

At least have everything turned off and let users have the option of turning things on to block their desired apps instead of having us to whitelist all the apps we want, if Oppo insists in keeping Security Centre.

Emoji's are super smooth and fast on the R9s Plus. Maybe this is due to the extra horsepower under the hood. They should be optimised for the R9s though, if they're running sluggish. Swiping up on the lockscreen while the alarm is going off turns it off for me, and tapping the screen snoozes it.

Is it not the same for the R9s? Same here, extremely solid connectivity with wireless, bluetooth and GPS. Calls have been great, but I would have liked a bit more volume in the ear piece as I find the loudest point to not be as loud as my previous phones.

That says it all really. They just need to work on the software and sort a few bugs out here and there. I've passed on a fair bit of information to Neil of my findings so hopefully we can see some bug fixes in updates to come.

I agree with the above recommendations. But why not just remove ColorOS altogether and allow the user to use stock Android? Like the Nexus or the OnePlus.

I would choose the OnePlus over the Oppo any day, simply for that reason. But alas, greedy corporations like to force feed us, like we're children It's the same issue with updating phones for any proprietary flavor of Android.

I bought the R9s for my wife but after 2 days of searching I give up on finding the "customization" menu, did it get removed in Color OS 3? Oppo forums say to long press any blank space but that only starts the shaking, I see no menu?

Oh also "registering" with Oppo fails, anywhere, any website, via the phone, so far all attempts have been unsuccessful. I don't think that's ever gonna happen.

Oneplus is a division in oppo. That's where they're gonna release the stock phones for geeks.

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